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talking about for weeks and weeks, which is those tax rates. republicans are saying they want to keep tax cuts in place for incomes above $400,000. democrats from their perspective they say they have moved away from one source i talked to, their comfort zone, $250,000. they moved up from that. they're not willing to go above 400,000. the bottom line, i think it goes without saying, this is not a good sign that things are so bad right now and they're not talking at this point when we're so close to what is a clear deadline. >> it's beyond that. it's obnoxious, it's -- >> it's unsulting to americans, it's insulting to the world. more than 500 days have gone by since they came to an agreement that they would have to do something by now. it is quite remarkable that we are actually in this position. dana, excellent reporting, stand by there. i want to remind our viewers, two things that we're talking about here. the democrats had signaled that they might be able to use 400,000 as a threshold. the republicans had signaled they might be able to use $1 million as a threshold. but the speaker of t
. and then there was this. >> that reform has to go hand in hand with reforming our tax code so that wealthy individuals and the biggest corporations can't take advantage to deductions to those standing up here that aren't available to most americans. >> that was the first time that the public has heard the president say that he wants to raise taxes next year. >> let's pass the tax relief portion now, let's take what has been agreed to and get moving and we will continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending but let's not let that hold up the tax hike that will take place in ten hours. >> i want to give a kudos to senator biden. good for him and good for mcconnell. good evening. this is the kudlow report. now there still may be a vote in the senate tonight. the breaking news story devel developing on a minute by minute basis. let's bring in john who has been doing a brilliant job. good evening. >> reporter: we are still waiting for the wrap up of a deal between vice president biden and senate republican leader mcconnell. i got a message from a source in the senate who said we are getting there
cliff negotiations, that are going to eliminate this middle class tax hike, but the fact is, payroll taxes are going up. if you make $50,000 a year, you're going to pay a thousand more in taxes so when the president and congressional leaders stand up and say we saved the world, we avoided middle class tax hikes and look at your paycheck, you're going to realize they talk in a different language in washington and people get burned. stuart: i know you've got a poll on the blame game. i'm going to put it up on the screen now. i think it sails 44% will blame the republicans if we go over the cliff and 36% blame the president, scott, i think that's much more narrow than i thought. i thought republicans would overwhelmingly get trashed on this and get all-- >> no, because the republican voters say the president is to blame for everything. if their favorite football team lost it's the president's fault. a good solid base of republicans that have a different way and republican-leaning independents and 50% say both sides are to blame and the cynicism is unbelievable. they just, you know, righ
to bye down months of the cut but says the tax issues shooting forward. >> we will continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending. but let's not let that hold up,be protecting americans from the tax hike that will take place. we can do this. we must do this. >> though it is down to the wire. >> it's december the 31. january 1 is tomorrow, 2013. taxes go up. >> frustrated senator john thune says the senate should have acted months ago to keep the u.s. economy going off the fiscal cliff. >> i find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz. i hope we can get something done on the last day. we put two people together basically to resolve this. >> the two people were senate republican lea leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden who worked the phones after talks between mcconnell and harry reid stalled. >> discussions continue today on plan to affect the middle class families from the tax increase tomorrow. there are a number of issues in which the two sides are still apart. negotiations are continuing as i speak. >> the ag
-class families from a tax increase tomorrow. there are a number of issues on which the two sides are still apart. but negotiations are continuing as i speak. we really are running out of time. americans are threatened with a tax hike in just a few hours. i hope we can keep in mind our single-most important goal is to protect middle-class families. whether or not we reach agreement in the short time we have left we'll need agreement from both sides from taxes going up tomorrow for every family in america. there are still some issues that need to be resolved before we can bring legislation to the floor. the president pro tempore: under the previous order, the senate will proceed to a period of morning business until 12:00 noon. it's for debate only. senators are permitted to speak therein for up to ten minutes each. a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from iowa. mr. harkin: mr. president, i understand we're in morning business. the president pro tempore: the senator is correct. mr. harkin: mr. president, i was disturbed to read in "the washington post" this morning that so
trigger a big series of tax hikes and spending cuts. welcome to "america live" i'm rick folbaum. >> i'm arthe arthel nevel. the president is expected to make remarks within the hour about the on going negotiations about the so-called fiscal cliff. we'll bring that live to you when it happens. sources are telling fox news that congress has figured out the tax part. the main bone of contention is at this point the spending. the white house wants new spending using tax hikes to prevent some of the severe budget cuts that also kick in in 11 hours from now. republicans argued that is just robbing pete tore pay paul. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live at the capitol following all of the bouncing balls. hey, mike. >> reporter: one concern for republicans as they look at this deal is what about spending cuts? where are the spending cuts? it sounds like they are getting close in the talks between vice president joe biden and the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell but there is not a deal until senator mcconnell knows he has enough support. let's take a look at some of
with the deficit in the biggest way. but their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. at some point, i think what's important is that they listen to the american people. >> joining me now, congressman chris von holland of maryland. good evening. it is a good sign that chained cpi is off the table. the senate will be back tomorrow at 11:00. how high is your optimism or pessimism at this moment? >> well, it was a very bad sign when senator mcconnell put this social security change on the table, as part of a small deal, that was obviously something that could have totally thrown a monkey wrench into the process. so the fact that they backed off that is obviously good news. but as senator reid said, there are lots of obstacles still to go. and the fundamental issue remains what the president just said in that clip. both today and for the last year, the number one priority of republicans have been -- has been to use the middle class tax cuts as leverage to try and extract these super big tax breaks for very wealthy individuals, including now their f
in terms of what we think the rates should be for -- and at what point there should be a tax cut and at what point there should be a little revenue that we should collect. there is a difference there. there was a difference about whether or not we should be looking at the social security issue in this discussion. my understanding now the republicans have backed off now, correct, and we are looking at whether or not we are going to end up with deficit and debt reduction and whether or not the changes the republicans are insisting upon are going to comes on the backs of the middle class. >> seine toe, the clock is tick. and i'm sure you heard during your campaign, which you just won, a lot of people saying what is going on with washington? we are so close now this deadline. you can't -- probably hard to put into words how frustrated people are are a lot of talking going on and you can't come together with republicans and they can't come together with you to stop taxes from going up for all americans. >> well, the american people in their wisdom sent a divided government to washingt
. gregg: this is it. we are just hours away from falling off the so-called fiscal cliff. tax hikes for nearly every american. lots of different ones. spending cuts of totaling more than a trillion dollars. by all indications, nothing, we mean nothing has changed on capitol hill. senate majority leader harry reid saying significant distance remains between the two sides. good morning everyone, i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer here in "america's newsroom.". >> i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum the senate gavels in at 11:00 a.m. we'll see if there was some miracle overnight. gregg: i doubt that. yesterday, republican senate leader mitch mcconnell made an emergency call to the vice president joe biden in an evident to jump-start negotiations. heather: if no deal is haed out today, majority leader reid says he will call a vote on a separate white house plan that reflects's original proposal. gregg: chief correspondent mike emanuel kicks off the coverage. mike, where do the things stand in the fiscal cliff talks at this critical late-stage? >> reporter: gregg, there seems
obama went on "meet the press" to call out mcconnell and house speaker john boehner over tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to know that taxes should go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the world turns the page to 2013. good day. i'm chris live in washington in for andrea today. deal or no deal? as vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell continue negotiations, we just have learned that president obama will speak about the fiscal cliff at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. with all that happening, let's get right to our daily fix. nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill, nbc's kristen welker at the white house, and jonathan capehart, washington post editorial writer and my colleague and an msnbc contributor. okay, kelly. the action is on the hill where it's been for the last few days. let's start with you. thi
on the senate, and as democrats dig in to protect social programs, republicans do the same on taxes. >> raising taxes to pay for new spending is not something that republicans believe this debate ought to be about. it ought to be about reducing the deficit and the debt, and what they are essentially suggesting is we want new taxes. we want higher taxes on people in this country to pay for new spending. >> so what happens next? with us nbc news capitol hill correspondent mike vic rah and nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. mike, let's get started with you. what's happening right now in the senate. i understand there's an update on the chained cpi. >> reporter: they say the darkest hour right before the dawn, melissa. everybody ought to hope that's true, at least if you don't want to see your taxes go up on midnight on monday and tuesday night because everything seems to be at a standstill right now. let's review the bidding. here it is from a republican source here on the republican side of capitol hill. all day yesterday they were trading proposals back and forth. by his count tw
who negotiated an extension of the bush era tax cuts for two years. that happened two years ago when republicans had a lot of political capital because they just won the house in a big way. whether or not these two men are actually going to be the ones to strike a deal, we're not sure, but we are told, our ted barrett and jessica yellin and i are told by multiple sources that it does seem that at this point, at this late hour, the talks are primarily centered around and between these two men, between mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader, and joe biden, the vice president. harry reid, the senate democratic leader is certainly very well-informed. he's kept apprised of what's going on just as the house speaker on the other side of the capitol is as well but these two men are probably hopefully going to work late into the night, maybe early in the morning to see if they can come up with some way to put this in real terms for americans, some way to avert the taxes for every american going up in a big way starting tomorrow night. >> so it's no burning the midnight oil for the sena
to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit and as part of an overall deficit reduction package. if folks can't say yes to good offers, then i also have an obligation to the american people to make sure that the entire burden of deficit reduction doesn't fall on seniors who are relying on medicare. >> now, one of the questions in the days ahead will be whether or not this strategy back fired because republican leaders on the hill had their feathers ruffled by the fact that the president seemed to be blaming them. and speaker john boehner saying he should spend more time negotiating, why are you on tv while mitch mcconnell is working with harry reid to troy to get a deal. the president's point was if they do not make any progress on bipartisan talks in the senate since the clock is running out he wants a straight up and down vote on the senate on his fallback level. put it go in the $250,000 a year and extend unemployment benefits for 2 million americans americans americans, dana. >> this is bob beckel. are you done? >> i had a great questi
to hammer out a deal picking tax break ceilings, trying to lessen the impact of spending cuts. there are still major obstacles to pass. but this morning we're hearing that progress is being made. we'll have more on that and the fiscal cliff negotiations in a minute. >>> first, i want to show you the rest of the world is ringing in the new year. midnight arrived in asia. they are calling it a pyre tech nick musical. they were scheduled to begin an hour before midnight. hong kong on the top ten places to ring in the new year. let's listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> ring in the new year, good morning 2013. we'll continue to monitor all of these celebrations as the day rolls on. the night rolls on in some cases. midnight in the u.s. is the big fiscal cliff deadline. there are two fronts we are watching today. capitol hill and wall street. let's see if there's any movement on capitol hill. stock markets moving up because it's a little erratic. dana bash is watching that live for us. dana, last hour you were saying progress is being made. now you've been hearing rumblings on the opposite
? that's because almost every one of us is facing a major tax hike in our 2013 pay economics if congress does not reach the agreement on the fiscal cliff. right now there are still negotiations that are going on. they are being led by the vice president, vice president biden and senator minority leader mitch mcconnell. sources say that they are making some progress, but even if a deal is reached, no guarantee it's going to pass. listen to what one democratic senator, tom harkin, said on on the senate floor just earlier this morning. >> if we're going to have some kind of a deal, the deal must be one that really does favor the middle class, the real middle class, those making 30, 50, 60, $7,000 a year. that's the real middle class in america. as i see this thing developing, quite frankly as i've said before no deal is better than a bad deal, and this looks like a very bad deal the way it's shaping up. >> we want to bring in dana bash on capitol hill. when you think about it, both sides are not happy with what's taking place, at least what they're talking about. i know you have some new in
will the fiscal cliff. $600 billion worth of tax increases and spending cuts. it is supposed to be automatic. but now republicans are suggesting a delay, the president just spoke trying to add pressure to congress to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. listen. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain, whatever you want to call it, that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way that doesn't just deal with the taxes, but deals with the spending in a balanced way, so that we can put all this behind us focusing on growing our economy. but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> let's turn now to chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. let's talk a little bit about the outlines of the deal, the fact that the president came out to make his case and try to push this thing over the finish line. what does the white house have to do to gain the backing it needs. >> reporter: well, what we heard from the president today just now was really an
. what tax and spending issues do need included in any compromise. republicans, your number is -- democrats -- independents -- if you are outside the u.s. -- you can also catch up with us on all your favorite social media sites, twitter, facebook, or e- mail us. a very good morning to you. taking to the latest headlines on the fiscal cliff. i will run a few -- through a few of them for you. from "the daily news" -- also "l.a. times" -- i will take to "a "boston globe"" -- "the boston globe" -- the new york post -- the story i want to start with this morning is from politico. that line is -- senate leaders are headed into a critical sunday session of congress with a similar mission to avoid historic tax hikes, setting the stage for a high wire a final act of fiscal cliff negotiating just two days before the country is hit with a series of tough austerity measures. -- that again is from politico this morning. you're getting your thoughts, and we want to hear your message to congress on the fiscal cliff negotiations. the politico story mentioned what was happening on saturday e
that they agree that it is important now to keep taxes from going up on most people and accept the reality that they will go up by the top 1 pshgs 2%, 250,000 in income and above. and it does look, to me, that there are enough votes if senator reid puts that on the floor for it to break the 60. but the republican probably going to filibuster it. >> even at 250,000, not 400 or 500, other numbers that have been floated? >> those are the compromise numbers. that's an effort by the president and senator reid to bring the republicans along. but senator reid said his preference is 250,000, which i agree with, by the way. what we're talking about is 4.6% increase in taxes. that means if you're making 250,000 ayear for every additional 1,000 you'll pay $46. the notion of paying $46 out of 1,000 for wealthy people has any negative affect on anybody, i confirmed this talking to one of wealthiest men of boston, i asked if we were to raise taxes by that amount on him would he know it if his accountant didn't make a point of telling him. he said of course not. but in any case the 400 is an effort to ha
it to the conversation of exactly where these tax cuts could take place if they happened after january 1st. the republicans want to vote to lower taxes. okay? see them go right to left as it were. the democrats want to see them go down and the republicans it appears increasingly clear are not going to vote to change the figure below the $1 million mark that boehner didn't get past the caucus unless they say to their people at home, they voted to lower taxes on all americans. >> peter, that was extraordinary. >> reporter: i tried. >> one of the best on this show. thank you! >> we have also got mike viqueira. mike? a lot of people and myself included believe that the payroll tax cut is the most damaging part of this for the middle class. if we do not extend it $125 billion comes out of the economy this year. so, you know, when's the latest on the payroll tax cut? any chance it's extended as part of a deal? >> reporter: great question. i cannot compete with peter's metaphor. it's a full court heave as the buzzer is sounding. that's the odds for a deal before monday night new year's eve. the p
if this administration. they continue to work at that. they continue to negotiate. if you make over, you would see a tax increase. this is a negotiation. everything remains very fluid right now. if they do reach a deal, then it comes time to sell it to individual lawmakers. then the house would have to eventually vote on it. let's say a tax increase, preventing a tax increase, if that something you could support? >> they will increase taxes. we have voted to not raise taxes on anybody and extend the tax reductions for everybody. that was a bipartisan vote taken on -- rich: hold on one second. we have senator harry reid on the floor. dagen: there is senator harry reid. >> it is for the date only. they will. dagen: roughly ten minutes each. >> mr. president, i was disturbed to read in the washington post this morning that some kind of agreements are being made here. somehow, the democrats have agreed to raise the level. dagen: we will monitor what is going on on the senate floor. we will see if senator harry reid has more comments to make. rich, my apologies for interrupting you and the congresswoman. i h
in on a tax rate compromise in the region of a $450,000 to $550,000 threshold. a higher rate than the president's earlier compromise as well as an agreement on the estate tax. sticking points remain. president obama seemed resigned to going over the cliff. >> if all else fails, if republicans do, in fact, decide to block it so that taxes on middle class families do, in fact, go up on january 1st, then on january 4th the first bill to be introduced on the floor will be to cut taxes on middle class families. >> and this morning former white house spokesman robert gibbs was even more blunt. >> the republicans simply can't utter the word yes. they cannot utter the word yes. i mean, i feel like it's -- i feel like you're talking to a 5-year-old, and, you know, you're saying, look, you have to eat your vegetables. the 5-year-old says, ah, you know, maybe. i will eat half of them, and you say will you eat a quarter of them? i will eat a quarter of them. >> out of control 5-year-old. still, the senate is back at it today trying to resolve the impasse. while the two sides seem to be nearin
falling over the fiscal cliff. senate leaders need to put something together to avoid tax increases for just about everyone and big spending cuts. senator claire mccaskill says a make or brake deal comes down to a few lawmakers on topic of raising taxes for the wealthy. >> it remains to be scene whether the republicans being driven by a very extreme group of house members will allow our economy to pert because of their desire to protect multimillionaires in this country. that's what it's going to boil down to. >> any plan would need house speaker john baner to bring it to the floor for a vote. republican representative tom cole says he's confident that boehner can get the votes he needs. >> on the speaker's plan, he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he had an awfully strong hand to play, if it's a deal john boehner can accept, it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral or not favorable, his chances will be a lot slimmer. >> lisa desjardins following the fiscal cliff negotiations on capitol hill. do you have any
and your taxes starting tomorrow. >> ali is going to be with us for the next hour or two or three. who knows. we're also watching a very serious health scare for the secretary of state, hillary clinton. she's now hospitalized with a blood clot. doctors are revealing where it is. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. >>> we'll get to the fiscal cliff negotiations. there's movement right now, but first, startling new information we're learning about the blood clot that landed secretary of state hillary clinton in the hospital this new year's eve. her doctor is now revealing it's located in her head between her brain and her skull. let's go straight to our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta for the latest. they issued a pretty detailed statement, sanjay. walk us through what we know about the secretary's condition. >> well, what they have told us, just over the last couple hours, wolf, is that there is a blood clot that is specifically located in one of the veins that drains blood away from the brain. it's called the cerebral vein or cerebral
to speak after the butting heads on two key issue, one involving tax rates, the other social security. ali velshi is in new york, dana bash is live on capitol hill. we will start with you, dana. what has gotten lawmakers now not seeing eye to eye? >> reporter: actually, let me answer that by asking one of the members of the senate republican leadership, senator john thune, who just came out of the senate republican meet egg. senator, can you tell us where do things stand as far as republicans feel? >> well, look, republicans advanced a proposal last night. you heard senator mcconnell talk about that on the floor. we are still awaiting a counteroffer by the democrats. and there was an indication that we could have received that by 10:00 this morning. we have yet to receive it. but there are discussions that continue. senator mcconnell and vice president biden are continuing to discuss this and we think there perhaps still could be a path forward. the one thing that is a, you know, democrats come out and made a big deal out of chained cpi, republicans are very concerned that if that not be u
, this cliff-hanger has been two years in the making. >> i've said before that i felt that the middle-class tax cuts were being held hostage to the high-end tax cuts. i think it's tempting not to negotiate with hostage takers. unless the hostage gets harmed. then people will question the wisdom of that strategy. in this case, the hostage was the american people. and i was not willing to see them get harmed. now, is this the deal i would have preferred? no. but this compromise does make a serious down payment on the deficit reduction we need. most importantly, it will allow us to avoid default and end the crisis that washington imposed on the rest of america. it ensures also that we will not face this same kind of crisis again in six months or eight months or 12 months. and it will begin to lift the cloud of debt and the cloud of uncertainty that hangs over our economy. >> it's a real disappointment today. i'm sorry that the so-called super committee was not able to do its work because this makes it much more difficult to achieve the deficit reduction targets that must be done. what happens next
is if they are giving on tax increases which we get the indication they are willing to do at least to some degree they would like to see something that addresses the long-term deficit. whether that can happen in this deal seems to be the problem. democrats have said if they can get something bigger they would be open to changes in entitlements. that is where things stand. there is clearly even handed on both sides saying they want to get things done. you know the clock is running and those signs make everyone think this may not resolve itself tonight. >> thank you very much. >>> let's go to the white house and kristen welker. hi there. >> reporter: hi, there. the white house is not commenting on these developments. senior administration officials say the action is going on on the hill right now. they are hesitant to weigh in. they don't want to disrupt any progress or setbacks that may be in the process of being resolved. so that is what the white house is saying publicly. i can tell you that behind the scenes it is a very busy day here at the white house. staffers have been on the phone with the
and narrowed down the differences. among the points with headway, the tax hike threshold, the estate tax and extending unemployment benefits. the remaining sticking point is rumored to be the automatic spending cuts. collectively called the sequester you have been hearing about poised to kick in tomorrow. let's get to nbc white house correspondent kristen welker there for us. what was the point here? the president decided to come out and that bully pulpit can be a powerful weapon. >> reporter: certainly can be. good afternoon to you, t.j. the president using the bully pulpit. this is a part of the pressure on congress but also democrats who might be skeptical of this compromise that is coming to fruition so he came out today with middle class americans standing behind him and made the argument if we do, in fact, go over the cliff, if the steep tax hikes and spending cuts kick in to effect tomorrow, that the average american would see their taxes increase by about $2,000. this is an argument that he has been making for quite sometime now and appeared on "meet the press" this week with a s
and public posturing, democrats and republicans have reached an agreement on tax rates in their negotiations. let me tell you what we know at this hour. the deal is said to raise $600 billion in revenue over the next decade through a series of tax increases on the wealthiest americans. th bush era tax rates would be text ended for all single americans with incomes below $400,000 and couples with income below 45000$450,000. all income above that would be tacked at 39 pittsburgh.6%. the deal is said to include a permanent fix for the alternative minimum tax and it extends unemployment insurance for another year for 2 million americans. this was huge for the democrats. speaking at the white house in front of a group of middle class americans just a few hours ago, the president urged congress to act immediately. >> for now our most immediate priority is to stop taxes going up for middle class families starting tomorrow. i think that is a modest goal that we can accomplish. democrats and republicans in congress have to get this done, but they're not there yet. they are close, but they're not ther
want to use more tax dollars to reduce spending. we'll have the details ahead. >> we are live in time square. they are setting up the barricade and barriers out there. more on that . maria molina is down there am she is tiny amongst the sky scrapers. "fox and friends" begins right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". ♪ it is nice and calm and in a few hours it will be bonkers. >> you have been down on the crazy evening. what time do they get down there? >> they start in the afternoon. they have everything in the gates carrolls -- carols and you can't go anywhere . >> adult diapers. >> pretty much. we talked about it earlier. >> it is new year's eve . if you are partying, time squares just at home we have your cure for the hang over and what you should drink and what you should not drink. >> a whole table. >> peter: i went and bought myself aspargus . what it can do to prevent a hang over. >> first, it is it the final day of the year. we can't really celebrate yet the way we would like tompt >> dave: neither can congress . >> at this hour we don't have closure . we thought it was looking
, and happy new year. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. >> we're going cliffing. >> still no deal in sight. >> they just shovel it out to us. >> washington still in deadlock. >> we're falling over that fiscal cliff. >> republicans simply can't utter the word yes. >> the president is, i believe, slowing down the process. >> they have no strategy. they don't know what they want. >> kim kardashian is pregnant. >> a lot of democrats get mad at me. >> no deal is better than a bad deal. >> something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our american economy is our american congress. >> hats off to the president. >> as of this point is looks like i'm going to be spending new year's here in d.c. i can come to your house? is that what you're saying? >> happy new year! >>> grab your party hats, chill the bubbly. just eight hours to go. yes, we are all waiting to cue the confetti with hopes for a last-minute deal to avert the fiscal cliff. with sweeping tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect at midnight, frantic negotiatio
norquist. he is the president of americans for tax reform. jason chaff et cetera, chris van hollen, and johnny isaacson. >> that's a stacked show. >> soledad is off. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a health scare for secretary of state hillary clinton. doctors discovered a blood clot in a followup exam related to her concussion. the location of the clot has not yet been disclosed, but clinton treated with antikanticoagulant. jill dougherty, live in our washington bureau. what are you hearing? >> not a lot. since that statement sunday night, sanjay. they are really saying -- as you said, they are monitoring, and here is the statement so you can listen to exactly what they said. that her doctors are going to continue to assess her condition, including other issues associated with her concussion. because after all this happened as a result they say of that concussion, and they will determine if any further action is required. so it's really, you know, watch, wait, observe, and see how she's doing. this has kind of grown. remember, you know, the flu, then tha
higher taxes and deep spending cuts. the senate opening a sunday session with its chaplain. >> look and save us from self-inflicted wounds. >> our coverage continues as lawmakers are still at it. tonight. new video of a plane crash that appeared to leave no survivors the death tole rising. now we see this huge airliner crack into pieces. the latest on what happens here as investigators point to some equipment on boyered. >> al -- on board. >> also feeling the fight of winter weather again. northeast taking the brunt of a new system as many of you head this way to bring in the new year your travel forecast. >>> it has all come down to this again. crunch time in our nation's capital. the state of our economy could hang in the balance. tonight talks to solve the fiscal crisis are continuing to play out in private. it will effect virtually every single american tax hikes that will take money out of millions of paychecks unemployment benefits that could suddenly ride up for millions of people still looking for work. deep spending cuts that could hurt our military with so much at stake it
this looming tax hike. everyone agrees that that action is necessary. >> so now all eyes are focused on the senate for 11:00 this morning when they do reconvene. there were reports there was major progress overnight for something that could pass on the senate side. the question is whether it can pass on the house side under the leadership of speaker john boehner. i've talked to a couple of republicans this morning who are fairly optimistic that whatever comes out of the senate, whatever that deal is, it will pass the house this afternoon. although hard-core republican anti-tax folks are not going to vote for it. it still would likely have enough votes to pass. that's at least the mood of some folks i'm talking to today. guys, one of the big questions that's unresolved here was raised on a conference call with ceos arranged by the white house on friday night, on that white house conference call with ceos. one of the ceos asked tim geithner, i'm told by a participant on the call, whether a small deal would be enough to are prevent ratings agencies to downgrade u.s. debt. i'm told by th
taxes would increase $2,400 a year for families with an annual income of $50,000 to $75,000. their social security taxes would also go up on average $1,000 a year. and some 2 million jobless americans stand to lose their fed caleral unemployment benefits. in all, the congressional budget office says going over the cliff could cost the country more than 3 million jobs in 2013. we begin our coverage with nancy cordes on capitol hill. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the senate is set to reconvene in about an hour. we're told negotiations progressed well last night, that the vice president is now heavily involved and that the two sides have moved significantly towards one another on the top issue, which is tax cuts. but the big question is whether they can make it the rest of the way before tonight's deadline. senators filled the halls sunday hoping they'd have a deal to vote on, but just before 6:00, the senate leader sent them home. >> there's still significant distance between the two sides but negotiations continue. >> reporter: those talks hit
to an agreement. when it comes to income tax hikes "the washington post" reports that democrats counter offer sets the threshold at $450,000 a year for taxes to go up. republicans are looking for $550,000. democrats are no longer insisting on raising the estate tax on the very wealthy. they will now agree apparently to an up or down vote. that was key for republicans. still, both sides remain far apart on extending unemployment benefits and on the sequester. of course that is when the steep automatic spending cuts would slash budgets at the pentagon and other government agencies. let's bring in "usa today" washington bureau chief susan page and "the washington post" congressional reporter ed o'keefe. good morning to both of you and happy new year. >> good morning. >> same to you. >> the senate returns in about an hour. how close are they? what are you hearing? >> you know, i think it is conceivable that we'll have a new year's eve miracle and there will be a deal but i think the safe bet is against it. for this to happen in the next 14 hours you need to have no senator object to a majority vote, y
together to avoid tax increases for just about everyone and big spending cuts. a make or break deal comes down to a few lawmakers on the topic of taxes on the wealthy. >> it remains to be scene whether the republicans being driven by a very extreme group of house members will allow our economy to pert because of their desire to protect multimillionaires in this country. that's what it's going to boil down to. republican representative tom cole says he's confident that bainer can get the votes he needs. >> on the speaker's plan, he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he had an awfully strong hand to play, if it's a deal john boehner can accept, it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a very strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral and not favorable, his chances will be a lot slimmer. >> lisa desjardins following the news on capitol hill. >> reporter: the news is a little better than it was earlier today. negotiations are still happening. there was a point today where there was a total breakdown. vice president joe biden. some of the last people in the building, i
. both sides still far apart, however, on taxes and spending cuts. senate majority leader harry reid says prospects for a deal by monday are still unlikely. there was a lot of movement, motion for not a lot of action. >> where were you yesterday? >> i was here. we were together. >> were we ever with our -- no. but there were duelling senate leaders just -- first mcconnell came on. and he said -- did you see either one of those? >> i did. >> did you see harry reid? >> there's no chance of -- >> but if you think -- i want to rise above. there was so little of anything close to that yesterday other than just the -- i mean, people at home must be like, it's the endless blaming and finger pointing and, you know, when one side says it's all the other side's fault and all the other side comes on and says people at home aren't going, wow, i believe you, harry. or i believe i, mitch. they're saying you're both losers, right? >> right. >> my real concern is this is what the current version of america actually voted for. >> the house is different. all politics is local. harry reid, you know which in
points is should new leff new from tax increases be used to pay down the country's deficit or used to cover the cost of preventing sweeping government spending cuts? no ordinary sunday. arriving at the capitol, congressional leaders' every move and every word under scrutiny, as the country waits, weighing in from the white house, the president, who appeared on "meet the press," pushed republicans to give on taxes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> reporter: inside closed door negotiations this weekend, aipds say there have been "constructive move." on key issues like taxes, including compromise on where to set higher rates for wealthier americans and avoiding a jump in inheritance taxes. but this afternoon, republican leader mitch mcconnell complained that democrats had failed to deliver a promised counteroffer. so mcconnell called for help, phoning vice president biden who came to the white house to
will be raised over the next decade through a series of raises on taxes for the wealthiest americans. and those rates would also carry over for couples making under 450,000. any income above those two numbers would be taxed at 39.6 pnt. the top tax rate under president clinton. and capital gains taxes above those amounts would be increased to 20%, that is up from 15%. this tax deal would also create a perm naanent fix for the alternative minimum tax and extend unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. the president made it clear what his top priority is in any deal. >> preventing that tax hike has been my top priority. because the last thing folks like the folks up here on the stage can afford right now is to pay an extra $2,000 in taxes next year. middle class families can't afford it. businesses can't afford it. our economy can't afford it. >> just an hour later, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell signalled his agreement with the president. >> so i agree, let's pass the tax relief portion now. let's take what's been agreed to and get moving. we all want to protect tax pairs and we c
discussion here at the white house about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> it comes after speaker boehner left the white house. he didn't say anything to reporters and neither did anyone else who was seen leaving the meeting. here's what we do know. in just four days, taxes will go up on millions. and millions more will have their vital unemployment benefits run out. that's why president obama organized the meeting with vice president biden, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators reid and mcconnell. he urged them to extend jobless benefits. we can deal with cuts to defense and domestic programs later. but let's take care of the middle and working class right now. give them assurance right now. joining me is congressman chief ellison. he's co-chair of the progressive caucus and melissa harris perry, host of the melissa harris perry show here on msnbc. thank you both for coming on the show. >> thank you,
the press." >> on midnight, december 31st, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they're less likely to hire and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is starting to pick up. >> but after it was all said and done, leaders on the senate floor couldn't get anything done, at least not yet. >> there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest or frankly the courage to close the deal. i want everyone to know, i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. >> this morning, we've been trying to come up with some counteroffice to my friend's proposal. we haven't been able to do that. i've had a number of conversations with the president and at this stage, we're not able to make the counteroffer. >> that's joe biden, i believe. t
that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall deficit reduction package. the offers that i've made to them have been so fair that a lot of democrats are getting mad at me. i mean, i offered to make some significant changes to our entitlement programs in order to reduce the deficit. they say that their biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way, but the way they're behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> fiscal cliff negotiations are now down to the wire with a midnight deadline just hours away. that's tonight, new year's eve. at stake, the prospect of sweeping tax hikes and across-the-board spending cuts if a deal is not reached. and all indications are it's not looking good. here's the latest. the senate is scheduled to reconvene at 11:00 this morning. any deal today would have to be rushed through both chambers of congress before midnight. as talks in the senate stalled yesterday, minority leader mitch mcconnell reached out to someone h
dollars in tax hikes and a hundred billion dollars worth of spending cuts from defense and other key domestic programs, that is if no deal is reached in time to avert it. both the house and senate with rare new year's eve sessions today as they try to hammer out some sort of an agreement. >> we do have to work together, because without bi-partisanship nothing is going anywhere. what we can do is avoid a fiscal calamity by not having the sequestration take place on january 1. jon: the white house also burning the midnight oil last night with the president saying earlier that he ways modestly optimistic the two side could strike a deal. but the key sticking points remain the same, taxing the wealthy and cutting the budget to pay for democratic spending proceed proceeds always. >> it feels an awful lot like groundhog day. this is the fourth or fifth time i've stood at this podium and i feel like i'm saying the same thing, except in the movie time re matter. every indication now is the republican congress continues to not work in good faith with the president. there is still time left an
. the one-two punch of tax increases and budget cuts set to go into affect on january 1st. negotiations will continue through the night, and a top man at the nation's capital has been called in to help. our abc news reporter has the latest from washington. >> the clock is ticking. negotiations are on going. at this point democrats and republicans remain at odds. >> regardless of partisan differences, our top priority has to be to make sure that taxes on middle class families do thought go up that would hurt our economy badly. we can get that done. >> president obama called for immediate action, but there was that vote in the senate tonight. >> we are going to come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, and we will have further announcements perhaps at 11:00 in the morning. i certainly hope so. >> mitch mcconnell frustrated with the lack of progress called vice president biden in for help. biden is now said to be playing a direct role. >> there is no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness or interest or want to close the deal. >
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